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jet_striker · Jan 06, 2006, 05:28 PM // 17:28

anyone know what this fiery flame spitter is????

G.R.R Martin · Jan 06, 2006, 06:23 PM // 18:23

Wow...hindsight really is 20/20

I wish that I had known about all of this (especially the eventual selling price) when I killed off my first W/Mo character so that I could play on my own account. I certainly would not have sold mine to a merchant. All i can recall about the sword is that I was very impressed to finally be able to find a sword that added energy to (what I thought at the time) a seriously biased weapon selection against the whole 'sword wielder warrior' specialty.

Highlord Christophe · Jan 06, 2006, 06:36 PM // 18:36

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Originally Posted by jet_striker

anyone know what this fiery flame spitter is????

Location: Pockmark Flats
Collector: Nicanor Gannel
3 Enchanted Lodestones
Fiery Flame Spitter (Fire Dmg: 5-12 req. 3 Axe Mastery)
Skill Recharge 10%
Armor -10 While Attacking.

animeba · Jan 06, 2006, 09:37 PM // 21:37

It's actually +2 energy, not +5 energy when compared to a staff.

With HoD Sword you get +5 energy, +20% enchant mod
Foci provides +12 energy, 20/20 bonus

A collector staff is +5 energy mod, +20% mod
+10 energy, 20/20 bonus

Since +5 energy mods are only 10-30k, the question becomes, is the +2 energy really worth the 370k+?

axe · Jan 06, 2006, 10:04 PM // 22:04

Anyone know about this axe, I dont know where I got it and nobody can tell me any info about it (somebody HAS to know how to get this thing) 28 energy in platemail with no energy offhand.

krammit · Jan 06, 2006, 10:20 PM // 22:20

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Originally Posted by moonos

obviously you dont know much about monks.. the sword is good not just because of the 5 energy, but also what you can add to it.. can you do that with wands? NO. 20 enchant mod on the sword is just incredibly awesome, and the furious mod on it as well, gives you more adrenaline for bonettis defense (4 farming monks). So this sword is mainly for farmers, and 20 enchant may not seem alot to some of you.. but trust me, when it comes down to it.. its worth it.
my suggestion to you all, get it now b4 it goes up more.. and it will.

Obviously you don't. Why not use a regular sword or a Firey flame on a farmer?

jet_striker · Jan 06, 2006, 11:06 PM // 23:06

Ok so I round around trying to find this BLASTED COLLECTOR
I am having serious problems finding him in the Flats
anyone know where around the area he is,,,, lol

KamikazeChicken · Jan 07, 2006, 01:00 AM // 01:00

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Originally Posted by jet_striker

Ok so I round around trying to find this BLASTED COLLECTOR
I am having serious problems finding him in the Flats
anyone know where around the area he is,,,, lol

Walk from Serenity Temple straight down past the Stormkin. Continue along the path straight until you see the collector. If that's not good enough, I might post a map later.

axe · Jan 07, 2006, 01:18 AM // 01:18

The collector also only is in the zone if your country has favor, its wierd, but true.

KamikazeChicken · Jan 07, 2006, 02:34 AM // 02:34

Axe is lying to the extreme. The collector was very much around on the American server today when I got a few axes; Europe had favor at the time.

Sadly, I bet Anet will remove this collector in the near future.

cagan · Jan 07, 2006, 02:40 AM // 02:40

He sometimes .. just isn't there, no idea why *shrug*, maybe some wandering creature kills him, but sometimes he just isn't there.

axe · Jan 07, 2006, 02:49 AM // 02:49

Well I have visited the zone several times, he was only there when we had favor, Maybe you zoned and lost favor after you zoned. But I am telling you from my experience he is there only when you have favor.

If you are having trouble finding that collector, try again when you have favor. Seriously Im not lying, I doubt it was just coincidence the many occasions I have visited this collector. If I am mistaken, I am sorry, but Im just trying to be helpful.

cagan · Jan 07, 2006, 02:53 AM // 02:53

There have been several times i've tried to visit him, while having favor from the start of the trip to the end, and he's not there, so favor can't be the only factor in his being there or not.

Mrs Ne · Jan 31, 2006, 07:06 PM // 19:06

I brought the sword ages ago, for some reason even though I never used it I customised it

Then today I just found out that it's worth 300k+ so I'm very annoyed :'(

xcutioner · Jan 31, 2006, 07:22 PM // 19:22

Consider past history...
The main reason why you wanted the +5 energy is simple...

PROTECTIVE BOND!!

Back in the day, when you could cast protective bond at 17 protection you needed those 5 energy points to help you maintain the protective bond. As a solo monk you usually cast balts aura(25e), shield of judgement(15e), and healing breeze(10e), which totals 50 energy, so the hod sword was required in that build to help ensure that the protective bond didnt drop.

Ever since that nerf, everyone uses protective spirit, which does not drain energy every time it reduces damage, hence the lessened need to carry the hod sword.

These days it's more of a imonk status symbol that an actual "required" utility item.

My 2 cents.

mattjones527 · Jan 31, 2006, 07:27 PM // 19:27

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Originally Posted by Mrs Ne

I brought the sword ages ago, for some reason even though I never used it I customised it

Then today I just found out that it's worth 300k+ so I'm very annoyed :'(

^ LOL, ya I originally had 3 at the time of the nerf, I was tempted to sell them off for quick cash thinking I could always buy one later for 100k at most. However I knew that statisticlly they HoD sword had an advantage, so I customized the one for my monk to prevent me from selling it. Today I only have 1 left....the customized one. So the moral is customizing saved my monk his HoD sword, and i'm happy to have atleast one HoD sword.

As for anyone who didnt get one before the nerf, I dont think the extra energy makes that much of a difference. I sometimes think using the sword may actually put me at a disadvantage, for example most people will be using green wands with 10/10 or 20/20 on them. So if anyone is seriously thinking about buying an HoD sword I would take the skill recharge/cast into consideration.

mishop · Jan 31, 2006, 08:04 PM // 20:04

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Originally Posted by Guardian of the Light

If you want a +5 energy thing may I suggest the +5 energy wand that still exists and is right outside of Nolina.

I can't believe I missed this all these months - thanks - I'm gonna look that up right now and hope its +5 always or +5 > 50.

sun is in us · Jan 31, 2006, 08:07 PM // 20:07

Actually I use it on my Mes all the time.....beside its obvious advantages...

I really appreciate that when I attack (this is mainly in pvp), no matter what keyboard key I hit, it does not give away my position with a wand cast.....just helps with that self control.

I wouldn't part with it for 900k.

But then again, I use things for their use, not as trade items..... money has no meaning in this particular game for me.

Reverend Jekyll · Jan 31, 2006, 09:34 PM // 21:34

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Originally Posted by xcutioner

These days it's more of a imonk status symbol that an actual "required" utility item.

My 2 cents.

Ding Ding Ding... We have a winner.

Face it, with enough things beating on you energy is not an issue. When there aren't enough things beating on you Blessed Signet more than makes up for the energy you're spending.

Get an %18-%20 enchant mod for a sword or axe and you are set. The flamespitter is nice, but ultimately even that is unnecessary.

DevilStick · Jan 31, 2006, 10:22 PM // 22:22

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Originally Posted by Reverend Jekyll

Ding Ding Ding... We have a winner.

Face it, with enough things beating on you energy is not an issue. When there aren't enough things beating on you Blessed Signet more than makes up for the energy you're spending.

Get an %18-%20 enchant mod for a sword or axe and you are set. The flamespitter is nice, but ultimately even that is unnecessary.

IMHO, a good enchant mod (which you can get on any weapon) is more important than the extra energy of the Nolani wand once you've figured out how to properly solo an area. It just makes farming sooo much faster and efficient.

When you're learning to solo a new spot, however, I think the HOD sword, which can combine both an enchant mod and extra energy, can give you the extra cushion needed to learn to solo an area. And that can be very helpful when you're learning.

It's also nice to have the option down the road of using the HOD sword in a new build. You never know what new combinations will be thought of next.